Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/22/2012 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 56 INCLUDE ARSON IN CRIMES OF CONSPIRACY TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ HB 216 REGULATIONS: INFORMATIVE SUMMARY/BILLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 216(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 253 CATHINONE BATH SALTS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ HB 264 MUNI PROPERTY TAX DEFERRAL: SUBDIVISIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 264(CRA) Out of Committee
*+ HB 302 REPEAL PICK-CLICK-GIVE AUDIT REQUIREMENT TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 279 EXTENDING CERTAIN BOARDS & COMMISSIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 279(FIN) Out of Committee
HOUSE BILL NO. 216                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  relating to deadlines  in bills  directing the                                                                    
     adoption of regulations and  to the informative summary                                                                    
     required  for  the  proposed  adoption,  amendment,  or                                                                    
     repeal of a regulation."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:35:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Thomas   MOVED   to  ADOPT   proposed   committee                                                                    
substitute for  HB 216,  Work Draft  27-LS0701\S (Bannister,                                                                    
2/22/12).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze OBJECTED for discussion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JOE  MICHEL, STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE BILL  STOLTZE, explained                                                                    
that  the CS  made three  changes to  the original  bill. On                                                                    
page 2,  line 8 the  words "furnishes or  otherwise provides                                                                    
a," were  inserted. Language  had been  removed from  page 2                                                                    
line  12 through  13  that  stated "that  is  posted on  the                                                                    
Alaska  online  public  notice system  or  furnished  in  an                                                                    
electronic format under AS 44.62.190  (a)." On Page 2, lines                                                                    
14 through 16 the following language had been inserted:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     "however,  if  under AS  42.62.190  (a)  the notice  is                                                                    
     published  in   a  newspaper   or  trade   or  industry                                                                    
     publication or  is broadcast, this subsection  does not                                                                    
     require that  the brief description  otherwise required                                                                    
     by  the subsection  accompany  the  publication or  the                                                                    
     broadcast."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan  asked for further explanation  of the                                                                    
insertion and deletion on page 2.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Michel deferred  the question  to Representative  Peggy                                                                    
Wilson.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PEGGY WILSON,  SPONSOR, introduced her staff.                                                                    
She clarified  that the addition required  the department to                                                                    
provide a  brief description of  the regulation  in layman's                                                                    
terms;  however,  the  description would  be  excluded  from                                                                    
newspapers,  state  publications,  and  radio  announcements                                                                    
because charges were  incurred on a per word,  per line, and                                                                    
per minute basis respectively.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman thought  that the  point of  the bill                                                                    
was to  provide the  public with  a better  understanding of                                                                    
the changes in  regulations. He understood that  there was a                                                                    
cost, but believed the public  should be aware of changes in                                                                    
regulations that could potentially impact them.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy  Wilson explained  that the  bill dealt                                                                    
with two  frustrations relating to  the process  of creating                                                                    
or changing state regulations: (1)  state agencies often did                                                                    
not write regulations in a  timely fashion. She relayed that                                                                    
on occasion regulations  had not been completed  by the time                                                                    
the scheduled  effective date arrived. She  cited an example                                                                    
related  to Alaska's  Clear and  Equitable Share  (ACES) and                                                                    
explained that  the regulations had  not been  finished five                                                                    
years   after   the   legislation  had   been   implemented;                                                                    
therefore,  producers were  not clear  on what  was required                                                                    
under the law  and it had presented  difficulty when looking                                                                    
at a proposed oil tax law  (HB 110) the prior year. The bill                                                                    
would  help  legislators  and  members   of  the  public  to                                                                    
understand what  the changes to proposed  regulations meant;                                                                    
(2)  the bill  would  ensure that  all  new regulations  and                                                                    
changes  to current  regulations would  be accompanied  by a                                                                    
brief  descriptive summary  written in  layman's terms.  The                                                                    
sponsor had worked with  community members, legislators, and                                                                    
the  Department   of  Law  to  develop   clear  and  concise                                                                    
language.  Section  1  specified   that  the  deadlines  for                                                                    
adopting and  amending or appealing regulations  were set by                                                                    
departments and agencies, which  would be included on fiscal                                                                    
notes. She  relayed that agencies would  be held accountable                                                                    
for meeting  the deadlines and  would be required  to report                                                                    
to  a  regulations  review committee  if  the  deadline  was                                                                    
missed; they would also be required to set a new deadline.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Peggy  Wilson  discussed that  state  boards                                                                    
that  met   infrequently  would   not  be  subject   to  the                                                                    
regulation   review   committee  requirement.   She   listed                                                                    
agencies that  were required  to meet  the deadlines  due to                                                                    
frequent interactions  with the public and  legislature: the                                                                    
Alaska  Housing Finance  Corporation, the  Alaska Industrial                                                                    
Development and Export Authority,  the Alaska Public Offices                                                                    
Commission,  and   the  Alaska  Oil  and   Gas  Conservation                                                                    
Commission.  Language   had  been  inserted  in   Section  2                                                                    
specifying  that  the  brief  description  was  targeted  at                                                                    
emails and online notices. She  reiterated that the bill had                                                                    
removed the  newspaper, trade or industry  publications, and                                                                    
broadcasting  announcements   from  the   requirements.  She                                                                    
expounded  that   a  significant  amount   of  communication                                                                    
related to the issue was done via email and online.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Peggy  Wilson  highlighted  that  Section  2                                                                    
clarified that individuals could  not take action against an                                                                    
agency if they misunderstood  the brief description that had                                                                    
been   provided.  Sections   3   and  4   stated  that   the                                                                    
requirements  applied only  to legislation  filed after  the                                                                    
effective date of July 1, 2012.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze WITHDREW  his  OBJECTION.  There being  NO                                                                    
further OBJECTION, Work Draft 27-LS0701\S was ADOPTED.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman discussed  that many  members of  the                                                                    
public received  their information about  regulation changes                                                                    
from the  media. He  cited a specific  case in  his district                                                                    
related  to  changes  to   animal  cruelty  regulations.  He                                                                    
wondered  how  people  would  know   whether  they  were  in                                                                    
compliance with the law or how it would impact them.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy  Wilson responded that people  would be                                                                    
informed  much   like  they   were  currently,   given  that                                                                    
newspaper and  broadcast announcements would be  required to                                                                    
specify where  the description was  located. She  added that                                                                    
unfortunately the  bill did not  solve the  problem entirely                                                                    
because  some  areas  did  not  have  internet  access.  She                                                                    
thought that individuals  without internet could potentially                                                                    
contact their legislators to receive the description.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman  surmised that the point  of excluding                                                                    
the brief  description from newspapers,  state publications,                                                                    
and radio announcements was to save the departments money.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson replied  in the affirmative. She                                                                    
explained   that  the   description   could  get   lengthier                                                                    
dependent  upon  the  subject  matter,  which  could  become                                                                    
expensive to publish.  She explained that they  had not been                                                                    
able to determine  the exact cost, but the goal  was to keep                                                                    
the  cost  to a  minimum.  She  added that  the  departments                                                                    
already  articulated the  intent internally  and adding  the                                                                    
description  to  the  public notices  should  be  relatively                                                                    
simple.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:48:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze ClOSED public testimony.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan thanked  Representative Peggy  Wilson                                                                    
for  bringing the  bill  forward.  He supported  legislation                                                                    
that  made  government  business   more  accessible  to  the                                                                    
public.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Neuman  believed  that  the  intent  of  the                                                                    
legislation was to  ensure that the public  was informed. He                                                                    
was concerned that  the departments did not  have to provide                                                                    
the description  in print. He  opined that the change  was a                                                                    
step backwards.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy Wilson  reiterated that the departments                                                                    
would be required  to provide the description  online and in                                                                    
emails  and that  the exclusion  only  applied to  broadcast                                                                    
information  due  to costs.  The  goal  was to  provide  the                                                                    
public with a better understanding of any changes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neuman supported the  bill, but believed that                                                                    
the  information   should  be  included  in   the  broadcast                                                                    
announcements and print media as well.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tammy  Wilson asked  for a  brief description                                                                    
between print versus email.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy  Wilson replied  that there  were three                                                                    
exceptions    including,    newspapers,   trader    industry                                                                    
publications,  and  broadcast.   The  description  would  be                                                                    
included in emails and in  published documents sent by mail.                                                                    
The goal  was to save the  state money by not  requiring the                                                                    
departments to pay for publishing the description.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze supported the legislation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Peggy  Wilson responded  that the  bill would                                                                    
have to go  through the Senate as well and  she would change                                                                    
the  bill  if  the  Senate  was receptive  to  the  idea  of                                                                    
including the description in print media.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:55:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Thomas  MOVED  to  report  CSHB  216(FIN)  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze discussed the  zero impact fiscal note from                                                                    
the Office of Management and Budget.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB  216(FIN) was  REPORTED  out of  committee  with a  "do                                                                    
pass"  recommendation and  with one  new zero  impact fiscal                                                                    
note from the Office of the Governor.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:55:51 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:56:36 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB216_Regulations_Sponsor_O.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 216
HB216_Changes_Finance.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 216
HB253 Letter.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 253
HB 253 Support Article Alaska Dispatch 11.07.11 (1).pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 253
Sponsor Statement for HB 253pdf.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 253
HB 302 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 302
HB 302 PCG backup information.docx HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 302
HB 302 Letters of Support.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 302
HB 302 federal audit information.docx HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 302
HB 302 Alaska Statute 43.23.062.docx HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 302
HB302-NEW FN-DOR-PFD-02-17-12.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 302
11 - HB 264 Supporting Documents - Letter of Support from the Juneau Affordable Housing Commission, 17 January 2012.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
10 - HB 264 Supporting Documents - Letter of Support from DJG Development, 19 January 2012.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
09 - HB 264 Supporting Documents - Letter of Support from the Alaska Association of Realtors, 4 February 2012.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
08 - HB 264 Supporting Documents - Alaska State Home Building Association Resolution in Support of HB 264, 20 January 2012.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
07 - HB 264 Supporting Documents - Juneau Empire Editorial - City's Top 10 Goals - Tricks or Treats, 13 November 2011.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
05 - HB 264 Differences between HB 264 and CSHB 264 (CRA).pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
04 - CSHB 264 (CRA) Version I Sectional Analysis.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
03 - CSHB 264 (CRA) Version I Sponsor Statement.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
HB 56 - Relevant Statutes.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 56
HB 56 Sponsor Statement 2012.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 56
HB264-NEW FN-DCCED-DCRA-02-17-12.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264
HB216CS(JUD)-NEW FN-GOV-OMB-2-17-2012.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 216
HB 216 CS WORKDRAFT FIN-B VERSION 022212.PDF HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 216
HB 56 Support.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 56
HB 264 Support letter.pdf HFIN 2/22/2012 1:30:00 PM
HB 264